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		<title>By: Joshua Steimle</title>
		<link>http://www.donloper.com/harvard-business-school/downloadable-copy-of-my-hbs-application.html/comment-page-1/#comment-2492</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Steimle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 21:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Pretty (and anyone else who reads down this far), even though it&#039;s been over three years since I submitted that application, and even though I&#039;ve learned quite a bit since then and know how bad my application was, I&#039;m sure there&#039;s still more for me to learn, so keep the comments/criticism/feedback coming, even if you feel cruel doing it. The first few comments were tough, but after that my skin got thick and my mind got open.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Pretty (and anyone else who reads down this far), even though it&#8217;s been over three years since I submitted that application, and even though I&#8217;ve learned quite a bit since then and know how bad my application was, I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s still more for me to learn, so keep the comments/criticism/feedback coming, even if you feel cruel doing it. The first few comments were tough, but after that my skin got thick and my mind got open.</p>
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		<title>By: Pretty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pretty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 21:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh I know this is late but my $0.02

You DID NOT follow that dude&#039;s advice at all! That post office package guy who wrote the $97 book I think he has some foundational info to build an application upon and, the myriad of other sources on amazon and the web, you did not do much of what he says as far as I can see.

I have already got a place onto a maybe #50 ranking international MBA program and your application would probably not even get into that.

Mostly all the comments that have been mentioned, and from my humble view point, lack of strategy and angle of attack on your application and absolutely no unique personal own story. You do not tell a compelling personal story of conquest on your essays and work history! And of course academic life.

Essay writing is an art! You say you wanted to be an artist growing up so can you write to bring out an emotive and moving response from the reader ? Can you write an essay and creatively imagine its composition from start to finish like an art!! Ahhh ok I&#039;m rambling but yea. You need to research how to do this perfectly if you can. This should be your main area of focus for next time.

We all want to get into HBS and, excuse my aggressive stance but it&#039;s a war out there!!! LOLOLOL You need a formidable strategy. 

Best wishes to you dear</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh I know this is late but my $0.02</p>
<p>You DID NOT follow that dude&#8217;s advice at all! That post office package guy who wrote the $97 book I think he has some foundational info to build an application upon and, the myriad of other sources on amazon and the web, you did not do much of what he says as far as I can see.</p>
<p>I have already got a place onto a maybe #50 ranking international MBA program and your application would probably not even get into that.</p>
<p>Mostly all the comments that have been mentioned, and from my humble view point, lack of strategy and angle of attack on your application and absolutely no unique personal own story. You do not tell a compelling personal story of conquest on your essays and work history! And of course academic life.</p>
<p>Essay writing is an art! You say you wanted to be an artist growing up so can you write to bring out an emotive and moving response from the reader ? Can you write an essay and creatively imagine its composition from start to finish like an art!! Ahhh ok I&#8217;m rambling but yea. You need to research how to do this perfectly if you can. This should be your main area of focus for next time.</p>
<p>We all want to get into HBS and, excuse my aggressive stance but it&#8217;s a war out there!!! LOLOLOL You need a formidable strategy. </p>
<p>Best wishes to you dear</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case your are still interested in feedbacks, here are mine :

Apply to more than one school. Life (jobs, girls, opportunities) is so. You can&#039;t just bet on only one horse.
Your GMAT quant is low. Target in both V and Q should be a least 80%
Your post MBA career is not clear. Emphasize down-to-earth commitments, not a title &quot;CEO&quot;
The girlfriend story : At least show immaturity. If a girlfriend can take you of course, what kind of leader will you be ? The same goes for lies. Don&#039;t mention it.
In addition to a low GPA, Nothing shows you can handle maths.
The way you tell the story doesn&#039;t show charisma.
Your entire application should convey one message, built around one powerful brand. In case of entrepreneurship, you may also want to consider Stanford.
Don&#039;t use teacher/professor recommendations
If I were Adcom, I would think : &quot;This guy doesn&#039;t need an MBA. He is doing just fine&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case your are still interested in feedbacks, here are mine :</p>
<p>Apply to more than one school. Life (jobs, girls, opportunities) is so. You can&#8217;t just bet on only one horse.<br />
Your GMAT quant is low. Target in both V and Q should be a least 80%<br />
Your post MBA career is not clear. Emphasize down-to-earth commitments, not a title &#8220;CEO&#8221;<br />
The girlfriend story : At least show immaturity. If a girlfriend can take you of course, what kind of leader will you be ? The same goes for lies. Don&#8217;t mention it.<br />
In addition to a low GPA, Nothing shows you can handle maths.<br />
The way you tell the story doesn&#8217;t show charisma.<br />
Your entire application should convey one message, built around one powerful brand. In case of entrepreneurship, you may also want to consider Stanford.<br />
Don&#8217;t use teacher/professor recommendations<br />
If I were Adcom, I would think : &#8220;This guy doesn&#8217;t need an MBA. He is doing just fine&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Annonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to say thank you for posting this.  Harvard is definitely a hard school to get into and I&#039;m encouraged by your aspiration to pursue things that are hard to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to say thank you for posting this.  Harvard is definitely a hard school to get into and I&#8217;m encouraged by your aspiration to pursue things that are hard to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Steimle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Steimle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you couldn&#039;t be more right Dom. At the time I wrote my essays I was so worried about the weaknesses in my background that I felt I had to address them, but I addresses them to the point of removing space to focus on my strengths. Pretty weak, indeed, but I&#039;m sure with all the feedback I&#039;ve received, the research I&#039;ve done and continue to do, and the changes I&#039;ll have made in the 5-6 years between my first and second attempts, that I&#039;ll be in a much better position the second time around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you couldn&#8217;t be more right Dom. At the time I wrote my essays I was so worried about the weaknesses in my background that I felt I had to address them, but I addresses them to the point of removing space to focus on my strengths. Pretty weak, indeed, but I&#8217;m sure with all the feedback I&#8217;ve received, the research I&#8217;ve done and continue to do, and the changes I&#8217;ll have made in the 5-6 years between my first and second attempts, that I&#8217;ll be in a much better position the second time around.</p>
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		<title>By: Dom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Joshua, 

I also think that the main problems of your application are your essays. To be honest it sounds like they are written by a high school student rather than a harvard aspirant. English is not even my mother tongue but I can tell a huge difference to other applications I have read so far. &quot;The girlfriend thing&quot; at the beginning is just complete crap and when you talk about your strenghts and weaknesses you talk so much about your weaknesses that I forgot that you even have strenghts. You reall shouldnt make the whole hire/fire part so detailed and long. You always have to make your weaknesses sound like a strenght &quot;at the end&quot;. As an example:

The CEO of Nestlé did the following in an interview when the reporter mentioned that they made one of their chocolate bars shorter in order to hide a price raise:

He shortly agreed that they made it shorter, thus didn&#039;t deny the criticism. BUT, right in the next sentence he said that Nestlé decided to do so in order to keep the calories per bar below 100cal. So now while you are in a Diet you can still have a chocolate snack once in a while since it is less than 100cal. 

So what do you think? Do you think anyone seriously is still thinking about how Nestlé &quot;raised the price without actually raising the price&quot;? I don&#039;t think so ... people rather see something good in this shorter and more expensive bar. That is ridiculous I know ... but that is Marketing. You have to market yourself better. Make Harvard think at the end &quot;Wow, this guy has even plenty of weaknesses, but none of them are effecting his work in order to be less succesful!&quot;

Hope I could give you a little impression of what I think about your app. Hope you get in! Maybe we will see each other ... I am going to apply for the 2011 class!

Dom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Joshua, </p>
<p>I also think that the main problems of your application are your essays. To be honest it sounds like they are written by a high school student rather than a harvard aspirant. English is not even my mother tongue but I can tell a huge difference to other applications I have read so far. &#8220;The girlfriend thing&#8221; at the beginning is just complete crap and when you talk about your strenghts and weaknesses you talk so much about your weaknesses that I forgot that you even have strenghts. You reall shouldnt make the whole hire/fire part so detailed and long. You always have to make your weaknesses sound like a strenght &#8220;at the end&#8221;. As an example:</p>
<p>The CEO of Nestlé did the following in an interview when the reporter mentioned that they made one of their chocolate bars shorter in order to hide a price raise:</p>
<p>He shortly agreed that they made it shorter, thus didn&#8217;t deny the criticism. BUT, right in the next sentence he said that Nestlé decided to do so in order to keep the calories per bar below 100cal. So now while you are in a Diet you can still have a chocolate snack once in a while since it is less than 100cal. </p>
<p>So what do you think? Do you think anyone seriously is still thinking about how Nestlé &#8220;raised the price without actually raising the price&#8221;? I don&#8217;t think so &#8230; people rather see something good in this shorter and more expensive bar. That is ridiculous I know &#8230; but that is Marketing. You have to market yourself better. Make Harvard think at the end &#8220;Wow, this guy has even plenty of weaknesses, but none of them are effecting his work in order to be less succesful!&#8221;</p>
<p>Hope I could give you a little impression of what I think about your app. Hope you get in! Maybe we will see each other &#8230; I am going to apply for the 2011 class!</p>
<p>Dom</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Steimle</title>
		<link>http://www.donloper.com/harvard-business-school/downloadable-copy-of-my-hbs-application.html/comment-page-1/#comment-2030</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Steimle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trust me, I can&#039;t be too upset by anything anyone says. I&#039;m quite appreciative of people taking the time to give lengthy comments like yours, and the harsher the criticism the better. I don&#039;t see any of the feedback I&#039;m getting as criticism of who I am as a person other than to say that my HBS application essay writing skills leave something to be desired. You may be interested in reading &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.donloper.com/harvard-business-school/reflections-hbs-application.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my thoughts from my current perspective&lt;/a&gt;, now that two years have passed since my application was rejected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trust me, I can&#8217;t be too upset by anything anyone says. I&#8217;m quite appreciative of people taking the time to give lengthy comments like yours, and the harsher the criticism the better. I don&#8217;t see any of the feedback I&#8217;m getting as criticism of who I am as a person other than to say that my HBS application essay writing skills leave something to be desired. You may be interested in reading <a href="http://www.donloper.com/harvard-business-school/reflections-hbs-application.html">my thoughts from my current perspective</a>, now that two years have passed since my application was rejected.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A little bit about my CEO comment, as well - everyone going to harvard wants to be a CEO.  So, explaining that you want to drive innovation in a certain sector is different than saying you want to be a CEO at a company in an almost ridiculous range of industries and locations (you mention entertainment, real estate, news, retail, and a bunch others that I can&#039;t remember), which are 100% unfocused and unrelated. 

Again, I dont mean to upset you but in my opinion I dont see much here that would make me want to meet you if I was in the Adcom&#039;s shoes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little bit about my CEO comment, as well &#8211; everyone going to harvard wants to be a CEO.  So, explaining that you want to drive innovation in a certain sector is different than saying you want to be a CEO at a company in an almost ridiculous range of industries and locations (you mention entertainment, real estate, news, retail, and a bunch others that I can&#8217;t remember), which are 100% unfocused and unrelated. </p>
<p>Again, I dont mean to upset you but in my opinion I dont see much here that would make me want to meet you if I was in the Adcom&#8217;s shoes.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to add also that it&#039;s considered a &quot;joke&quot; that you want to be a CEO to the Adcom.  Dont you think it&#039;s a bit cliche to tell people you want to be a CEO?  And also to treat the CEO position as a way to gain experience so that you can make a difference in the world?  CEO is the position that you get in when you are finally ready to make the ultimate difference in the world, in my opinion.

Honestly, I also have to say that I dont think any of your essay responses really answered the questions fully.  The first essay asks what you want them to know about your undergraduate experience, yet you talk about what your interests are now and what you did in high school sandwiched around a small piece of information of your undergraduate experience.  Also, there are a number of sentences which I am not convinced are complete.  Reading your resume-type listing, I thought you and I were the exact same (although reverse the quant and qual scores of the GMAT), but after reading your essays I have to admit I was unimpressed with your experiences.  It could have been the bad foot on which you started us out, or it could be the grammar of ending sentences with prepositions.  A mantra that I used while writing my essays was &quot;What does this sentence tell the adcom about me?&quot;  And telling them that you enjoyed your undergraduate experiences doesn&#039;t really tell them anything.  I am no expert, for sure.  I hope that I get an invitation to interview (I applied round 2 this year), but I dont think there is much to these essays that makes me want to meet you. 

I think selling your company is a huge accomplishment, i know it&#039;s one of mine, but I dont even really know what your company does, which tells me that you value not doing drugs (which millions and millions of students across the country do) over selling a corporation you created to a publicly traded company (which very few have done).  See where morality isn&#039;t really an accomplishment?

I swore I wouldn&#039;t write a long post, but simply stating that you raised money (although it&#039;s a large amount), isn&#039;t enough for me to really understand or believe what you did, particularly because you told us that you had no money after a huge profitable streak.  Giving detail on HOW you raised this money and what hoops you had to jump through in order to obtain the funding is more valuable than saying you did it.

There are other things that I would personally think are not very smart to put in your essays (a negative example of leadership experience, I would talk about helping an employee develop professionally somehow instead), but I think this is enough.  

Good luck if you decide to apply again, but I would suggest that you figure out why you would want an MBA.  You seem to know how to raise money already, you seem to know how to run a business, and you seem to understand how to find good help, what&#039;s left?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to add also that it&#8217;s considered a &#8220;joke&#8221; that you want to be a CEO to the Adcom.  Dont you think it&#8217;s a bit cliche to tell people you want to be a CEO?  And also to treat the CEO position as a way to gain experience so that you can make a difference in the world?  CEO is the position that you get in when you are finally ready to make the ultimate difference in the world, in my opinion.</p>
<p>Honestly, I also have to say that I dont think any of your essay responses really answered the questions fully.  The first essay asks what you want them to know about your undergraduate experience, yet you talk about what your interests are now and what you did in high school sandwiched around a small piece of information of your undergraduate experience.  Also, there are a number of sentences which I am not convinced are complete.  Reading your resume-type listing, I thought you and I were the exact same (although reverse the quant and qual scores of the GMAT), but after reading your essays I have to admit I was unimpressed with your experiences.  It could have been the bad foot on which you started us out, or it could be the grammar of ending sentences with prepositions.  A mantra that I used while writing my essays was &#8220;What does this sentence tell the adcom about me?&#8221;  And telling them that you enjoyed your undergraduate experiences doesn&#8217;t really tell them anything.  I am no expert, for sure.  I hope that I get an invitation to interview (I applied round 2 this year), but I dont think there is much to these essays that makes me want to meet you. </p>
<p>I think selling your company is a huge accomplishment, i know it&#8217;s one of mine, but I dont even really know what your company does, which tells me that you value not doing drugs (which millions and millions of students across the country do) over selling a corporation you created to a publicly traded company (which very few have done).  See where morality isn&#8217;t really an accomplishment?</p>
<p>I swore I wouldn&#8217;t write a long post, but simply stating that you raised money (although it&#8217;s a large amount), isn&#8217;t enough for me to really understand or believe what you did, particularly because you told us that you had no money after a huge profitable streak.  Giving detail on HOW you raised this money and what hoops you had to jump through in order to obtain the funding is more valuable than saying you did it.</p>
<p>There are other things that I would personally think are not very smart to put in your essays (a negative example of leadership experience, I would talk about helping an employee develop professionally somehow instead), but I think this is enough.  </p>
<p>Good luck if you decide to apply again, but I would suggest that you figure out why you would want an MBA.  You seem to know how to raise money already, you seem to know how to run a business, and you seem to understand how to find good help, what&#8217;s left?</p>
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		<title>By: essays!</title>
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		<dc:creator>essays!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From my point of view: Your grades are ok, your GMAT is fine. Obviously both could be better, but I feel your essays killed you. You start of essay one and immediately put yourself on the back foot. Approach the application with more positivity - focusing on your leadership in starting multiple businesses. Have a strategy for your application overall i.e. use each question to bring out a couple of positive points about you and reinforce those points with real results i.e. my company lost this much because I/we refused to act unethically, but was better off in this manner. Your career vision is grand and a little tough to bite off especially as you don&#039;t talk about how you will achieve it. You mention lots of interests - but no clear path - which is why it comes across as something you haven&#039;t thought through and to a certain degree, childish. Sure, it&#039;s great that you want to be the CEO of multiple companies in multiple industries, though it&#039;s a tad unrealistic, if the crux of what you really want to do is encourage entrepreneurial spirit, why don&#039;t you become a career counselor? 

You do have a good background, but you didn&#039;t package it too well. Rewrite essays from scratch if you reapply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From my point of view: Your grades are ok, your GMAT is fine. Obviously both could be better, but I feel your essays killed you. You start of essay one and immediately put yourself on the back foot. Approach the application with more positivity &#8211; focusing on your leadership in starting multiple businesses. Have a strategy for your application overall i.e. use each question to bring out a couple of positive points about you and reinforce those points with real results i.e. my company lost this much because I/we refused to act unethically, but was better off in this manner. Your career vision is grand and a little tough to bite off especially as you don&#8217;t talk about how you will achieve it. You mention lots of interests &#8211; but no clear path &#8211; which is why it comes across as something you haven&#8217;t thought through and to a certain degree, childish. Sure, it&#8217;s great that you want to be the CEO of multiple companies in multiple industries, though it&#8217;s a tad unrealistic, if the crux of what you really want to do is encourage entrepreneurial spirit, why don&#8217;t you become a career counselor? </p>
<p>You do have a good background, but you didn&#8217;t package it too well. Rewrite essays from scratch if you reapply.</p>
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