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		<title>By: kabin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kabin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 07:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course actually being a crook can have a substantial effect on your record, but my experience is that no matter what you do ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course actually being a crook can have a substantial effect on your record, but my experience is that no matter what you do ?</p>
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		<title>By: hayvancilik</title>
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		<dc:creator>hayvancilik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 08:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a few people out there who think I’m an absolute crook. I’ve come to believe that if you run a business the number of people who will believe you are a crook depends on how many customers you have worked with. Since most companies gain customers over time, your criminality is a function of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a few people out there who think I’m an absolute crook. I’ve come to believe that if you run a business the number of people who will believe you are a crook depends on how many customers you have worked with. Since most companies gain customers over time, your criminality is a function of time.</p>
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		<title>By: traverten</title>
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		<dc:creator>traverten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 09:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>500 hours as a minimum. Anything under 500 hours is easier to estimate, although I wouldn’t necessarily say it’s easy. But projects that are 500 hours, l</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>500 hours as a minimum. Anything under 500 hours is easier to estimate, although I wouldn’t necessarily say it’s easy. But projects that are 500 hours, l</p>
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		<title>By: su deposu</title>
		<link>http://www.donloper.com/managing-an-agency/when-web-designers-attack.html/comment-page-1#comment-2864</link>
		<dc:creator>su deposu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 06:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>k than they originally asked for. The only fair solution on large projects is to go hourly. That way the client can ask for whatever they want, and the developer gets paid for the work they do. By the way, when I say “large projects” I’m talking about 500 hours as a minimum. Anything under 500 hours is easier to estimate, although I wouldn’t necessarily say it’s easy. But projects that are 500 hours, let alone 5,000 hours, get pretty tough to estimate accurately without spending a lot of time on the estimate itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>k than they originally asked for. The only fair solution on large projects is to go hourly. That way the client can ask for whatever they want, and the developer gets paid for the work they do. By the way, when I say “large projects” I’m talking about 500 hours as a minimum. Anything under 500 hours is easier to estimate, although I wouldn’t necessarily say it’s easy. But projects that are 500 hours, let alone 5,000 hours, get pretty tough to estimate accurately without spending a lot of time on the estimate itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Burns</title>
		<link>http://www.donloper.com/managing-an-agency/when-web-designers-attack.html/comment-page-1#comment-1196</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Josh, I&#039;m 95% sure I know who situation number 3 is and who the &#039;partner&#039; is.  If it&#039;s who I&#039;m thinking it was, they did the same exact thing to me and my company when we were first starting.  That &#039;partner&#039; is one of the biggest jerks I&#039;ve ever met, and one of the most dishonest.  He&#039;s also the owner of that company&#039;s &#039;best friend&#039; and the owner is blind to the partners behaviour.  Trust me, you&#039;re better off not continuing to do work with them and at 14k, you got off cheaper than others.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Josh, I&#8217;m 95% sure I know who situation number 3 is and who the &#8216;partner&#8217; is.  If it&#8217;s who I&#8217;m thinking it was, they did the same exact thing to me and my company when we were first starting.  That &#8216;partner&#8217; is one of the biggest jerks I&#8217;ve ever met, and one of the most dishonest.  He&#8217;s also the owner of that company&#8217;s &#8216;best friend&#8217; and the owner is blind to the partners behaviour.  Trust me, you&#8217;re better off not continuing to do work with them and at 14k, you got off cheaper than others.</p>
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		<title>By: 97th floor</title>
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		<dc:creator>97th floor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 05:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a great post Josh. It is so true, Im sure you are hearing the same thing as I am in the seo industry about clients wanting to pay after rankings are achieved, pay if their sales go up all that stuff. I think one of the most important things a business owner can learn is how to say no to the potential problem clients. Epecially in the startup phase when it is so easy to say yes to everyone.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a great post Josh. It is so true, Im sure you are hearing the same thing as I am in the seo industry about clients wanting to pay after rankings are achieved, pay if their sales go up all that stuff. I think one of the most important things a business owner can learn is how to say no to the potential problem clients. Epecially in the startup phase when it is so easy to say yes to everyone.</p>
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